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Soaked in Star San....
I left my thru-mometer and plate chiller soaking in Star San for two weeks. Last night, I took them out and realised my mistake....There was dark filmy stuff on both. I was able to get some of off with a plastic scrubbi, but I have no way to clean, or even see the inside of either piece. The thru-mometer saya on the side, don't do what I did by storing in sanitizer. Obviously, I should read the directions, but I figured just hook up a couple hoses and let it flow.....F***! I think they are both trash, and I'll have to drop down another $125 to replace them...and this before next week when I brew again....
I would wonder if you found a friend with a pump if you could recirc some hot PBW through the plate chiller for while, followed by a good long rinse cycle if that would rescue the chiller.
Brewchez's suggestion seems pretty good... I think PBW is CIP100 or CIP200 and we use those all the time in industry to get some pretty tough crud off of vessel and pipe walls (including plate chillers!)
I assume you mean CIP means clean in place right?
But what does the 100 and 200 mean?
I know what CIP stands for, but what do the standards actually refer too?
Thanks in advance for the education.
That is strange, i've never heard of that. I've kept my plate chiller In Star san before, but the max was 2 days. I have it soaking right now in PBW since Sunday, and it's fine.
I think if you filled your brew pot with PBW, and boiled it for about 30 min and gave it a good pump, it would be fine. Please do not throw out your plate chiller, what the hell are you THINKING?
This is what PBW was made for cleaning up unknown gunk on your expensive equipment. Don't worry about it, clean it then pump some water through it, then taste the water, i'm sure it will be fine.
CIP 100 contains potassium hydroxide (<25%)
CIP 200 is a phosphoric acid based detergent (contains <50%)
So PBW - which is probably more environmentally friendly than and which is highly cuastic like CIP 100 - could be pretty helpful to your problem.
CIP 200 is a harsher and more effective cleaner.
I'll try the PBW...and there's no way I'm losing the Plate Chiller. There's just something special about racking beer into the fermenter at 62 degrees perfectly....
Right now, it's been in my dish strainer drying out. I'll try boiling it with some PBW Sunday.....
ricka182 wrote:
I'll try the PBW...and there's no way I'm losing the Plate Chiller. There's just something special about racking beer into the fermenter at 62 degrees perfectly....
Right now, it's been in my dish strainer drying out. I'll try boiling it with some PBW Sunday.....
Now you're talkin sense. I usually boil my chiller in about 3 gallons of water and 1/2 cup oxyclean for a half hour every 5 batches or so. No harm. I then boil it in straight water right after I remove it from the soak.
I keep my thrumometer in a bucket of starsan its entire life. It has grown some odd little nodules and pits on it, but is over 2 years old of that trreatment and performs fine.
Sweet Thristy..thanks....I thought my Thru-mometer was hosed, but hell if you do the same I can't see a problem. Right now, I'm very impatiently waiting to get paid next week, so I can buy what I need to do the Keezer conversion, and the remainder of the kegging stuff I need.
Which reminds me, I'll have to look all that up...I have the kegs, and that's it. I know I need a tank, regulator, gas and bev lines, shanks, faucets, handles, QDs of some sort......yeah...I knew this would be expensive, but I can't wait to just be able to come home and grab a glass of beer off the taps... woo-hoo!!
Oh, just thought of something....the QDs stay on during the boil right? Just throw the whole thing in the kettle and let it go for a bit, then reboil with clean water, then sanitize and store it.....sound right? thx
Thank God Thirsty finally posted on this one, and managed to talk you down from the ledge. Never speak of this again. You freaked me out talking about throwing out your plated chiller.
bruguru wrote:
Thank God Thirsty finally posted on this one, and managed to talk you down from the ledge. Never speak of this again. You freaked me out talking about throwing out your plated chiller.
Just for the record, if it did have to disposed of, it would certainly be replaced. The object itself is simple, it's the process of plate chilling that I love. Couldn't care less what it looks like, but I love the Shiron and it's simplicity....
ricka182 wrote:
Oh, just thought of something....the QDs stay on during the boil right? Just throw the whole thing in the kettle and let it go for a bit, then reboil with clean water, then sanitize and store it.....sound right? thx
Yeah as long as your QDs are high temp rated, which the polysufone, and brass ones all are, no issues.
BTW, look out your window and wave...
I think bruguru is digging through your garbage. Checking to see if your brewhouse scraps were left out.
damn right, i'd have 2 plate chillers, and chill down to 34F for some Ice beer, ha ha.
You don't want to dig through this weeks garbage....nasty rotten fish I forgot about is all that awaits you...The plate chiller is being PBWed as I type, along with the thrumometer..
And just to remind myself how damn awesome having a chest freezer is, my IPA is crashing comfortably at 38 degrees!!! I'll be making the collar this week, and hopefuly getting a conversion kit. I saw this place that sells everything I need sans the O2 tank for $109...It costs a bit more to upgrade to Perlicks, and I will for sure. I'm hoping I can get everything else I need for under $200.....
bruguru wrote:
Thank God Thirsty finally posted on this one, and managed to talk you down from the ledge. Never speak of this again. You freaked me out talking about throwing out your plated chiller.
I still think he should throw it out. Its definately beyond saving.
BTW, Rick what day of the week is your trash pick-up???
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