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Is this a good deal?....
I've been talking to someone about a Sub-Zero fridge unit. He wants $100 for it, and he says it works. This is the link he gave me to look at the model....
http://www.blueribbonappliances.com/ser … tor/Detail
That unit retails out for over $1000. I confirmed the asking price as well, $100. I wonder if I get this, if I'l get screwed. I think it would fit in my pantry area if I lose one shelf.
Any suggestions or advice?....
I'd find out why he's selling for less than 10% of the retail price. I mean he could just be trying to get rid of it and doesn't care how much he really gets for it or it just might be old but in decent working condition. But real low prices for expensive things always throws up a red flag for me. If possible, try to see it while in use so you know it keeps things cold.
First of all, the subzero is an amazing product- super high quality. Second, make sure it will be big enough to fit what you need, and with its size you will probably want to put a tower on it, not shanks coming through the door, otherwise you would need to get on your knees to pour.
In the 7 or so fridges I bought from craigslist, the best deals come from those who have no room anymore and have to get rid of something. This immediate need for disposal drastically lowers the market price. If however this person is replacing the unit with something similar, then there may be an issue with it. If it is local, I would tel the person to leave it plugged in, and set the temp to its warmest. Go chck it out, bring a thermometer with you and see how warm it can get, then crank it to coldest and wait 15 minutes and see that there is a differential. As long as that works and the compressor doesn't sound like a huey taking off, should be good.
Make sure it stays upright when transporting, the compressor is usually in the bottom of these and tiliting it will get the internal oil to leak.
I'll see if the guy is actually still using it. He didn't mention anyting on that, or why he's selling it. As for a tower, that'll be a no-go. It's probably going in my pantry, and they'll be shelves directly above it. I'll either have to take a knee, or mount a tap plate to the wall next to it and run hoses to the right level....
Also, Thirsty how warm do I want it to be? It's going to be used as a serving fridge, so it should be cold right? I think I'll also need a thermo-control-probe thingy. I saw one for $100 that had a 6' lead, and could be submersed in water for a true liquid temp measure.....
Oh, yeah....the keg is 25" tall...after I put the fittings on, how high will it be, as in how much clearence or total height do I need for the fridge. Most I see are around 33", and I think that would be enough....
ricka182 wrote:
Also, Thirsty how warm do I want it to be? It's going to be used as a serving fridge, so it should be cold right? I think I'll also need a thermo-control-probe thingy. I saw one for $100 that had a 6' lead, and could be submersed in water for a true liquid temp measure.....
Oh, yeah....the keg is 25" tall...after I put the fittings on, how high will it be, as in how much clearence or total height do I need for the fridge. Most I see are around 33", and I think that would be enough....
The main reason I was saying to start warm then cool, is just to see if the thermostat works. You can serve at any temperature you want. Mine dosn't work, I knew that going into it, it was originally supposed to be a ferm fridge, but turned into the kegerator, and my old kegerator is now the ferm fridge. In the summer I can't keep temps below 38 deg, but I honestly do not want to serve my beer much colder than that anyhow.
This is a pic of the keg clearance: 
The top row of kegs has 26.5" of clearance and that just allows the fittings and hose to clear, 1/2" less and it wouldnt make it.
Cool..thanks. Nice pic too.....damn, wish I could brew as often as you. I'm dying to do my next session. It's been way too long. I have to fix my wort chiller, and clean the pump...not to mention, be outside for a while, and right now is just not a good time to be outside for an extended period....
So, I'm planning on having (1) 5Lb CO2 tank, with a dual regulator(?) to pump two kegs. The output lines going through the side wall, and up a concealed track to a wall mounted faucet.....make sense? I think I can do that.....almost forgot...I also need to put an electrical outlet in the pantry. Need to go through the wall,and tap off whatever line is powering the closet ceiling light on the other side.....either that or run a shitty looking extension cord...
ricka182 wrote:
So, I'm planning on having (1) 5Lb CO2 tank, with a dual regulator(?) to pump two kegs. The output lines going through the side wall, and up a concealed track to a wall mounted faucet.....make sense? ..
If you are using a dual regulator, I would suggest splitting one output, and leaving the other to be a utility line. You are going to find yourself wanting a dedicated line for force carbing, beer gunning, bottle purging, that kinda stuff. An extra line is great to have, so you do not have to disconnect a keg each time and play with fittings. Or you can still do that, and now you can serve at 2 pressures, but getting a high pressure like 3+ vols is tricky, it will foam easily unless you use like 15-20 feet of bevline.
Seeing you most likely will be pouring from a balanced system (meaning carbing and serving at the same pressure) splitting the first rgulator for 2 kegs and keeping the utility line is the way to go IMHO.
Using one from the dual as a utility makes sense to me......Do you think it's cheaper to buy the parts needed seperatly, or go with a kit. I saw this kit for $250 that had everything needed from keg fittings and line to regulators and faucet. I would just need some more line for the extension. Is there a limit as to how far the CO2 can push the beer? I was thinking it could come out the wall of the fridge around 30" high, than travel a few feet to the adjacent wall, and then up maybe 3 feet to a tap mount......
I think the kit was Micromatic maybe.... edit: yeah it was. Here's a link to the kit I saw. $225 for the kit, no CO2 tank...
http://www.micromatic.com/draft-keg-bee … C-S-2.html
i would definitely buy your parts seperately. that kit includes 2 sankey couplers, those are like $45 a piece and you dont need them.
Approx per faucet price:
faucet- 40
shank- 14
tailpiece 2
backnut- 1
corny QDs (1 liquid 1 gas)- 12
gas line- 4
bevline- 5
clamps -4
Total- 82
That is for a good forward sealing perlick
Then you have a regulator- 65-85, and tank(85 if new, or get in on an exchange)
Oh, and I forgot about swivel nuts- another $3 for the pair
Thanks for the listing.....I'm putting together a shopping cart at B3 to get an idea how much for everything doubled up for two....
I also just figured something out. I can't really have a wall mount setup, because I'll have no way to keep the beer in the lines cold, so a good portion of every first glass would be at room temp until it flowed from the keg versus what's left in the lines....I guess I'll have to take a knee.....or maybe build a platform for the fridge, and use the underspace for storage to make up for lost shelf space.....hmmm, need to take measurements....
Okay, so how's this?....7.0 cubic foot chest freezer, for $75. about 6 years old, but still freezes. This would work well with an external temp controller for lagering and serving right?....Although I'd have to mount the taps on the side wall, because it won't fit front to back in it's location......
ricka182 wrote:
Okay, so how's this?....7.0 cubic foot chest freezer, for $75. about 6 years old, but still freezes. This would work well with an external temp controller for lagering and serving right?....Although I'd have to mount the taps on the side wall, because it won't fit front to back in it's location......
Make sure with freezers that the shelves are removable. Many have the coolant lines that run through the shelves, and will not work for you. How do I know this? Lets just say my neighbor bought the lst one fron me when I went and picked it up for a second ferment chamber. He is the proud owner of a nice upright freezer with chilled shelving.
If the guy gets back to me, I'm going to bring a keg with me to measure and make sure....
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