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Blue Moon Clone



Hey Yall!!
i am getting ready to make My "Blue moon Clone"  Saturday, But I want to Change it!!  I havea made the Clone Recipie once Before And it was great!.  DO you guys know of anything else I can add to it?  Like a fruit or something.  Something to make it my own!!!
Thanks



 

Post the clone recipe.  Without seeing it, I would add:

1 lb Belgium hard candy
orange peel
grains of paradise

This is a Belgium white I did a year ago and it was great!

http://www.cnybrew.com/2006/05/blanche- … white.html

 

I usually don't see hard candy in a Wit.  Not saying it wouldn't be good, just saying I usually don't see that.  I haven't done enough experimentation with sugars to know for sure, but I've heard if you are using the light candy sugar, it's the same as using regular sugar, only more expensive.  It shouldn't really contribute to the flavor of the beer either, unless you use a whole lot.  I've only used the newer dark candi syrup and it definitely added flavor, so who knows.

The orange peel and grains of paradise sound good though.  If you have the time, use real fresh orange peel (just the zest and none of the white pithy part).

You could always add fruit to the beer or maybe use more citrusy aroma hops.  In the end, it really depends on how you want to change the beer.

DT

 

I usually don't see hard candy in a Wit.  Not saying it wouldn't be good, just saying I usually don't see that.  I haven't done enough experimentation with sugars to know for sure, but I've heard if you are using the light candy sugar, it's the same as using regular sugar, only more expensive.  It shouldn't really contribute to the flavor of the beer either, unless you use a whole lot.  I've only used the newer dark candi syrup and it definitely added flavor, so who knows.

Good call.  I was not sure what I was liking in the BW I made was the sugar or the grains of P, but it was good (honestly still the best beer I have ever made).  Previously I had used (and have used since) the dark candi in the hard form and that has a lot of flavor ad to it.  I guess I assumed the light would have the same kind of effect.

When you said use "regular sugar" you are not talking about table sugar right?  I am assuming you mean sugar Kaine or something.



 

I already have orange zest and corriander seed, I really just didnt know what else would go good with those tastes.  I was thinking Cherrys, or limes or lemons, or some other type of fruit.I just want a hint of it in the taste.
One more thing, What Exactly is "GRains Of Paradise"?

 

Good question:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aframomum_melegueta

I love wikipedia

 

How about a little lemon? Either chop up about 5 or 6 lemons and add to secondary, or garnish your glass with them.

I love lemon in my wheat beers.

 

Funny, I was just talking about grains of paradise this evening.  It's from the pepper family, but it doesn't really taste like pepper.  It's fairly strong though, you'd probably only need half of whatever size the bag is they usually sell at the shop.  I haven't used it a lot, but I hear it takes a while to really come out in the beer, so aging the beer might be good.

Putting lemons in the beer sounds good too!

DT



 

I think the easiest way to experiment without getting too crazy is to use a different strain of yeast. Try an irish ale yeast, or a hefeweizen yeast (if you arent already)... different yeast strtains can really make a difference.. some can add citrus overtones.

http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_strains.html

 

I have covered this before. Using different strains in the same recipe makes a big difference. As I have stated many times, I brew 10 gallons and I ALWAYS use 2 types of yeast. The same recipe with a new yeast can make a world of difference.

I brewed my IPA using both Wyeast 1056 and WL001. The White Labs wasn't great with this batch, but the 1056 was really good.

 

I should have given credit where credit is due - cubx is all over the yeast strain experimentation!

 

Sorry about the wait, Here is the recipie:
6#s Dry Malt Extract (55%wheat 45% Barley)
1/2 # Flaked Oats
3/4 # Flaked Wheat
1 oz Saaz hops 3.3% AA  Boiled 60 Min
.8 oz Corriander Seed
.6 oz Bitter Orange Peel
1tsp  Irish Moss
(I am thinking of dry hopping  1 oz of Hallurtau or Eroica Hops)
OG 1.055 FG 1.008-1.015
1 pkg of Nottingham dry Ale yeast
Hope it does good!!!!!!

 

How about using 1/4 lb. of acid malt...give the beer a nice twang...

DT

 

I just brewed a Belgian Blonde extract kit from my LHBS yesterday. I don't have the exact ingredients in front of me but it was very similar with the corriander and bitter orange peel. The corriander was ground though. And I am planning on adding 3-4 lbs of raspberries when I rack it to my secondary. I was planning on using oranges with the Belgian Blonde because I made it once before and it didn't have much of a citrusey taste. And I was also planning a whole other brew of a raspberry ale. But my girlfriend threw a wrench in my plans and now I am doing a Belgian Raspberry Blonde.

I will probably reuse the yeast and make the next batch the Blue Moon clone and add the oranges to the secondary. And Cubx has said that if you boil the fruit it gives the beer a pectic haze which Blue Moon seems to have.

 

Blue Moon doesn't get it's haze from fruit, I believe that comes from the wheat.  I would classify it as more milky than hazy.  I think what Cubx is referring to is specifically the haze fruit can cause, which is a lot like chill haze, only it doesn't go away as the beer warms up.  Adding some pectic enzyme to the beer before adding the fruit should help to clear it up, but as Cubx said, some people like it hazy.  The haze doesn't effect the taste, just the appearance.

If you want a more citrus taste you need to use something like "sweet" orange peel.  Bitter orange peel only adds bitterness, but sweet orange peel adds a distinctive citrus taste.  I just used an ounce of sweet orange peel in a Belgian Wit I'm doing with strawberries.  It looked a little something like this (don't have it on me so this is by memory):

Weyerman 8.8 lb. Bavarian Hefeweizen extract
1/2 lb. rolled oats
1 lb. flaked wheat
1 oz. sweet orange peel
1/2 oz. of coriander (crushed by rolling pin)
2 oz. Saaz (1.5 oz. at 45 min. and .5 oz. at flame out)
T-58 yeast

And I'll be adding 10 lbs. (or so) of strawberries in the secondary.  I thought about using some orange peel that I was going to zest myself, but I've read that sometimes it gives a metalic taste.  I've never done it, so I cant say for sure, but figured I had enough going on in the batch not to try it this time.

DT

 

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