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MURPHYS PUB DRAUGHT CLONE
I was going to make the Murphys pub draught clone from the BYO 150 clone recipe magazine. I bought the ingredients and then went to beer tools to enter all the stuff to double check it and it was going to be way too light for a stout.
Here's the recipe from the magazine:
2.66 lbs Muntons DME
0.66 lbs Light Liquid Malt
1 pd 2 row
2 oz 90L crystal
3 oz chocolate
10 oz roasted barley
12 oz cane sugar
target hops for 31 IBU 60 min boil
EKG added at 15 min
wlp007 yeast
After entering it all the SRM was below the low end of scale. so here's what I'm thinking of adding:
1/2 pd debittered black patent
up the chocolate to 1/2 pd
add 1/4 pd 130 L crystal
using 3 pds DME instead of part DME & LME
using Williamette hops 1.75 oz for 60 min (35 IBU) couldn't get target hops.
that brings it into spec but not sure if that wil lalter taste much. tried finding other clones of murphys but couldn't so don't know if the recipe was a mistake. the all grain version seems too light also.
Suggestions?
DC
I plugged the BYO recipe into Beersmith assuming its a 5 gallon batch and I get about 31 SRM, using my specs for Chocolate and Roasted Barley, which is in the style guidelines. I always like a combination of Chocolate, RB, and BP in a stout so I say go for it if you're having doubts.
FirePitBrew wrote:
I plugged the BYO recipe into Beersmith assuming its a 5 gallon batch and I get about 31 SRM, using my specs for Chocolate and Roasted Barley, which is in the style guidelines. I always like a combination of Chocolate, RB, and BP in a stout so I say go for it if you're having doubts.
So you didn't change the origional amount of ingredients? Beer tools says it's too light but I don't know. doesn't seem like enough dark grains to make it dark enough for a stout.
DC
I didn't change the amount or add the additional chocolate or BP. Here's exactly what I have entered:
2.66 lb Light DME (8 SRM)
0.66 lb Light LME (8 SRM)
1.00 lb Pale Malt (1.4 SRM)
0.63 lb Roasted Barley (475 SRM)
0.19 lb Chocolate Malt (450 SRM)
0.13 lb Crystal 90 (90 SRM)
0.75 lb Cane Sugar (0 SRM)
Estimated color: 31.3 SRM
FirePitBrew wrote:
I didn't change the amount or add the additional chocolate or BP. Here's exactly what I have entered:
2.66 lb Light DME (8 SRM)
0.66 lb Light LME (8 SRM)
1.00 lb Pale Malt (1.4 SRM)
0.63 lb Roasted Barley (475 SRM)
0.19 lb Chocolate Malt (450 SRM)
0.13 lb Crystal 90 (90 SRM)
0.75 lb Cane Sugar (0 SRM)
Estimated color: 31.3 SRM
I got that too but the recipe in the mag, the exact same stuff in it shows 40 srm.
so I will go with origional amounts.I really liked the Murphys I had last week and want to keep it as close as possible. we'll see.
DC
Does the recipe in BYO specify the SRM values of the grains? If not, perhaps they're using a darker roasted barley or chocolate. You can add a little BP or Chocoate for insurance. I might if I were you because I like my porters and stouts to be opaque.
I thought Murphy's just made that oil soap....
My recommendation is to brew it as is. Then evaluate and modify for a second brew session later.
I always find the color estimations in beertools and beersmith to be off. The beers always seem slightly darker than what the #s say. 31SRM seems dark enough for a stout to me.
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