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Time for boil what are my options?

ricka182 wrote:

Holy crap FirePit?!?!   You have a 55K and it gets your 8 gallons going in 10 minutes....I may only have a couple minutes then with a full 210,000 BTUs....

I gaurantee you that what you think is 210K BTU and his 55K BTU, is wrong.
I also bet that they are much closer to the same BTU rating.  The evidence in in the time it takes to heat the water.  You both have pretty similar results.

There is no agreed upon standard in the industry how to measure the BTU rating on these types of burners.  So even if one is labelled 50K BTU from one brand doesn't mean it has the same heat output as one from a competing brand labelled as 50K BTU.  The ratings of these burner vary wildly, yet if you look at a lot of them they are practially identical...  In fact when I went shopping for my second burner I looked into this.

I found two burners that were two fold apart in there rated BTUs, yet when you look at the actually burner element they were the same.  THE EXACT SAME BURNER forged from the same forgery.  (You can actually find the name of the metal works stamped in the burner.)

So buyer beware regarding BTU ratings.  I suspect the ratings of most turkey friers/rpopane cookers is actually very close when the burner elements are practially the same.

Lastly, I have two burners and they both heat the same volume of water to boiling in about the same time.  One was rated at 55K the other was 120K... so go figure.

The only this the BTU rating is good for is comparing burners within a single manufacturer.  For example, the Bayou burner people have like 5-6 products.  If they have one at 50K and one at 100K BTU you can be pretty sure that the 100K is more powerful than the 50K....however you can't be sure its actually twice as strong.

 

Hmmm...maybe I should return this thing......then again, seeing as my old burner(unknown BTU) just could not get a good boil going without being covered as you saw recently, I'll stick with the new one.  It said it was 210K, so I went with it.  I actually ordered the 185K newer model, but it's the same thing with a different regulator.  Mine is 30 psi, and the new one is only 20 psi.....There should be some difference there.

Regardless, I'm happy with it whatever the rating is.  It looks nasty, sounds like a jet engine, and works awesome for me.....

 

ok i have found the bayou classics and my hardware store has 2 options the sp10 which has a smaller base but a 20 PSI regulator
http://alseafoodstore.com/Bayou-Classic … 291GBQ.htm

or the that you suggested with a 10 psi regulator
http://alseafoodstore.com/Bayou-Classic … 9JXYQ4.htm

both basically the same price. i'm thinking the 10 psi regulator will be fine as i only brew 5 gallon batches. what are your thoughts?

 

Belgiumtripel, I can only speak for the 2nd one you linked, but I think you'll be happy with either one. 

Brewchez, last year before I even got into outdoor burners and all grain brewing, I remember hearing that the BTU's of propane burners were going to start being determined and advertised differently.  Even if a specific burner was originally listed at say 110K BTU it might have become rated at 55K BTU (just an example).  I think I might have even read about this in a Williams Brewing catalog.  Do you, or anyone else,  remember hearing or seeing anything like this?

 

I would go for the most powerful you can choose from.  If you're always going to do 5 gallon batches either would work fine, but might as well go with the 20psi version.....

 

bad news went to the hardware store today and they are sold out of bayou's so i went to menards, lowes, home depot with no luck. i was hoping to brew sunday sad

I know there has been talk of thumbs down on aluminum but take a look at this setup and let me know what you all think.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=p … lpage=none

the only problem would be if i didn't like the aluminum your stuck with that pot because the stand is modified to fit that exact pot. anyways take a look when you get a chance

 

Aluminum is not a bad thing.  You just have to be careful how you clean it.
Use nothing more than mild dish soap and elbow grease.  Never use acidic wash solutions.

 

Ditto....I started with aluminum even with all the rumors about it being bad....never had an ill effect.  Like above, dish soap, hot water and a soft sponge.  Never scrub to harshly.  If you do get that setup, I guess it's possible to cut off those frame rails if you had access to a tig welder or plasma torch, or maybe some bolt cutters and a grinder.......

 

Yea, you definately need a burner, I got one at the home depot for 69 bucks.  It came with the burner, an 8 gallon pot, and a thermometer that was about 2 feet. long. (I use it for my mash, works great).  I use the turkey pot for my sparge water again since it's really thin aluminum it heats up great on the stove.  I do all my mashing inside the house, and heat the water on the stove with my 5gallon pot, and the 8gallon that came with the kit.  I have a 45,000 rated btu burner, and it brings 12 gallons of wort to a boil in 40 minutes.
     This is a good rolling boil.  It's impossible to get a rolling boil on an electric stove, trust me, i've tried, a gas stove maybe, but not an electric.

 

ok I broke down and bought the sp10 bayou for 42 total on ebay shipping included. There is 1 more on there that is the same price if anyone's interested here is the link. this one has the 20 psi regulator.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bayou-Classic-SP10- … .m20.l1116

I got a sanke keg and cut the top of it off yesterday. I still have the 1 inch outer ring diameter where we could not get the plasma torch in. I'll get it worked out with a post I read on here about the keg tops. So i'm off to a good start, had to delay brew until next weekend but I feel that at least i'm giving it my best shot for the best brew possible. what do keg / kettle users use for tops on these bad boys or do they not need one?

wish me luck.
LOL

 

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