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ESB, kind of a Fuller's take off
This is for a
15 gallon boil
13 gallon batch
88% brewhouse efficiency
OG: 1.066 FG:1.021
9 SRM 48 IBU
22# Marris Otter pale
2# weyerman's munich
.5# bscuit
1# victory
1# aromatic
1.5# melanoiden
2oz magnum 60
2oz east kent goldings 45
1oz east kent goldings 10
1oz east kent goldings 0
WY 1968 1 gallon starter
Mash at 152 for 60 minutes
Ferment at 66 deg
This beer is pretty malty, and the bitternes dosnt hit you until about 7-10 seconds after your sip, then the mouth dries a little, and the bitterness is just left behind. No astringency at all.
Here is a pic of the final product, damn you Loren for making me pour a beer so early in the day, but the Pats are starting in a few minutes so I gues all is fine.
wow, 88% efficiency? That's something I'm going to have to strive for. I'm working off of 75%, and I do 10 gallon batches, 12 gallon boils. Good thing brewchez turned me on to beer tools it friggin rocks, I'm sure I'll have no problem scaling down the batch. I used to use promash, but beer tools gives you the exact style parameters that you have to meet for contests, and gives you the category #'s too.
Yeah this one is just outside the max, 1.060 for the cat 8c, but know one will ever know. I like the beers to be slightly on the bigger side of a category, with a slightly higher finish. As long as it is not overdone, it seems to produce a more memorable beer, I have learned to tame it a little bit. It does pain me however to brew an under 1.070 beer.
Thirsty, I tried converting it to an extract specialty grain. Can you look at the recipe and see if it looks right or what changes I should make for your ESB:
for 4.5 gallons. 2.5 gallon boil
5 pds Amber DME
.5 pds Melanoiden Malt
.3 pds aromatic
.6 pds biscuit
.6 pds munich
.3 pds victory
.6 oz magnum 60 min
.6 oz EKG 45 min
.3 oz EKG 10 min
DC
Biscuit and Victory in the same recipe. Any reason for that as opposed to all one or the other?
thirsty wrote:
It does pain me however to brew an under 1.070 beer.
I hear that! I still brew lower gravity beers from time to time, but I always get that tick where I want to add a bunch more malt...and hops, ha.
DT
deafcone wrote:
Thirsty, I tried converting it to an extract specialty grain. Can you look at the recipe and see if it looks right or what changes I should make for your ESB:
for 4.5 gallons. 2.5 gallon boil
5 pds Amber DME
.5 pds Melanoiden Malt
.3 pds aromatic
.6 pds biscuit
.6 pds munich
.3 pds victory
.6 oz magnum 60 min
.6 oz EKG 45 min
.3 oz EKG 10 min
DC
I would not use amber extract to replicate thirsty's recipe. Just use light english extract.
You can use the amber and still get a good beer, but it may come out with too much caramel type flavors.
I strongly encourage the use of plain extracts for all recipe conversions from all grain; even recipes from scratch. Just my opinion...
brewchez wrote:
Biscuit and Victory in the same recipe. Any reason for that as opposed to all one or the other?
I really think these are 2 different malts even though many say they are interchangeable. I think victory imparts a nuttiness that biscuit can not give, and biscuit has that extra brediness that is in the victory, but is still distinct. In retrospect however, doing it again, I will try backing off to 8-12 oz of victory and the same for the aromatic, just to see kind of the difference.
DC, I do not know much for conversion, but it looks like you have it pretty right, I may think .25# biscuit, .25# victory, .25# aromatic, but clos to a full # munich maybe 12-14 oz. Not knowledgeable about extract, but like brewchez says, amber may be too dark. Marris otter is still a light base malt, no where nerar the color of amber, and those specialties believe it or not will raise that color up.
I usually use light or extra light DME for recipes but I based the amber on the pic of your beer which looked like a dark red ale. But it's cool. Light DME it is.
Also I agree about the victory malt. I use it in a sweet stout I make and not having it one time i didn't think it would be a big difference but it was. It is light years better with the victory malt.
DC
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