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Hopscotch single IPA
I have been honing down my recipe for the double IPA, and the last 3 batches have been very good. My brewpartner feels that we need to perfect some lighter recipes, so I just ordered a variation to dumb this down from a 8% beer with 100 IBU to a 5.5% beer with 64 IBU. I also wanted to lighten the color some to mentally lighten the beer as well, but still want to have a pretty hue to it. This is what I came up with.
14.5 gallon runoff
13 gal batch
75% attenuation
88% brewhouse efficiency
OG 1.055
FG 1.014
64 IBU
8 SRM
17# american 2 row pale
3# vienna
1# special roast
.5# crystal 120
.5# victory
.5# carapils
2oz columbus 60
.75oz cascade 20
.75oz centennial 20
.75oz cascade 10
.75oz centennial 10
.75oz cascade 0
.75oz centennial 0
Whitelabs WLP028 1.5 gallon starter ferment @66
So hoping to get a vibrant color and clean finish, any comments?
Brewing oatmeal stout this friday, and going to ME the following weekend, so gonna try to squeak this one in before I leave, if not won't be for a few weeks.
Sell out.
Just kidding, sounds like the right idea for sure.
Especially if this was to be a commercial venture.
Keep me posted on the Oatmeal stout.
I plan to fire off another try at it myself this week maybe.
We'll have to plan an exchange.
Took 3rd place at the Hopheads So California comp with the Imperial version of this. Same percentages, just kick up the gravity to 1.075, and the IBUs were at 106. Haven't seen the scoresheet yet so not sure of the comments, they just have the results posted on the website. http://www.hopheads.com/regional08.htm So kinda psyched about that Thanks to Brewchez for suggesting the entry to get real "west coast" feedback!
Congrats, man. It's nice to get good feedback on your efforts. That double IPA we tried at our brew day was great. This lighter one looks good, too. I love centennial and cascade in IPAs, great combo.
thirsty wrote:
Thanks to Brewchez for suggesting the entry to get real "west coast" feedback!
I am pretty sure that if you just filled a bottle with hop pellets, capped it and sent it to several west coast competitions they wouldn't even realize the beer was missing.
Congrats on that 3rd place.
You are soooo right. Got the scoresheets back last night 33.5. Not that high. And all 3 judges agreed about 1 thing, strong malt presence! 106 effen IBUs and they say strong malt presence. 1 judge went so far as to say it was borderline barleywine.
truth be told, I am happy w/ that.A more palatable beer is what I was looking for. I honestly think that if I would send a perfect example like great divides hercules or even DFH's 90 minute they would say the same thing.
My cobrewer and I were actually laughing about this on sunday night's (2am) brewsession. I happen to have a local microbrewery's IPA on one of my sanke taps. Don't want to mention any names, but we all feel their beer fails in comparison to ours.
We were talking about bottling up a couple of these and paying the $6 entry just to see how the BJCP feels about it. Do they agree w/ our palates?
Of course if it were to place credit could not get taken, and I suppose it would be unfair because it would detract from a real entry's chances, but I still feel that their beer would not score that high. Given these circumstances I couldn't do it, but the thought was interesting nonetheless.
I think, with all due respect, that most West coast beers completely suck. Beer is about balance, not just addings some grains, some yeast, some water, and enough hops to fill a barrel....I have a buddy who lives in Oregon, and he's said before that beers from that area are hoppier just because they have so many hops locally......but even he agreed he'd like to see a less hoppy brew occasionally.
I bet, if they send over their homebrews to judges based on our side of the country, they'd all get tagged for being too bitter.....it comes down to where you live, and what types of beers you get brought up on..okay, so maybe not brought up on, but what beers aside from the biggies(B,M,C) you can readily get, taste, and enjoy. I had this stuff, Hair of the Dog Adam that my buddy sent me...it was drinkable, but not that good I thought. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there to tell me I'm an idiot, and that I have no taste for a good brew, but a friggen monkey can make an IPA...just add hops...
I think the Hopscotch double we sampled was great. Proper hoppiness, and good flavor to go with it......Hell, I made a mistake beer that I deemed IPA-ish, and people have told me they love it. I have no plans to make it again, because i think i can make better, and I'm not a big IPA fan anyway........
ricka182 wrote:
I think, with all due respect, that most West coast beers completely suck.
Sorry, but you just haven't had enough west coast beers then... With the exception of a few east coasters (DFH), the west is probably leading us in the experimental brews category, most of which contain less hops than a pale ale.
I'm a hophead and an IPA lover. I've probably brewed over 50 "different" IPAs, some were great, some were ok, none of them bad. There were things I liked about them all and there are some things that I really really really liked, ha. All that doesn't matter though when you put that beer into somebody else's hand. What's malty to me is probably pretty dry to another person...case in point - my wife, ha. Just because a program says you have 100+ IBUs doesn't make it so (not a jab at Thirsty by the way). There's so many things that change the way we perceive that bitterness - maltyness, serving temperature, method of hopping (FWH, 90-60 min, Late Hopping, etc.).
Knowing that the west coast really gave birth to the American IPA/IIPA, I think they were just that much farther ahead of the east coast. Go back to the roots...get yourself a Pliny the Elder and then right afterwards pull up to a Pliny the Younger. The Elder will blow your mind with hop flavor/aroma goodness, while the Younger's bitterness will send your tastebuds into hiding. Then grab a DFH 120 Minute ale and taste the syrupy malt stick to your tongue...huge differences. Al three beers probably have very similar real world IBUs.
Man, damn, now I'm all extra thirsty for some big pungent juicy hopness! Thirsty...I'm looking in your general direction, ha.
thirsty wrote:
My cobrewer and I were actually laughing about this on sunday night's (2am) brewsession. I happen to have a local microbrewery's IPA on one of my sanke taps. Don't want to mention any names, but we all feel their beer fails in comparison to ours.
We were talking about bottling up a couple of these and paying the $6 entry just to see how the BJCP feels about it. Do they agree w/ our palates?
Of course if it were to place credit could not get taken, and I suppose it would be unfair because it would detract from a real entry's chances, but I still feel that their beer would not score that high. Given these circumstances I couldn't do it, but the thought was interesting nonetheless.
I always thought that would be interesting too, but like you always dismissed it. Hopefully the IPA you speak of is at least on the caliber of a Wachusett IPA and not something like Harpoon IPA.
So Thirsty, what was your actual FG on the beer you entered? Also, having never added Special Roast to an IPA, does it end up coming out a little closer to a Red?
DT
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