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Orange Wheat
Last Summer (2009) Harpoon released a new addition to the UFO line up, UFO White. I loved that beer and drank a couple cases over the course of the summer. This year I wanted to make something that was similar and had that great orange busrt of flavor in it. So here is what I came up with. Again, its not supposed to be a dead on clone. UFO White was just an inspiration for this effort.
12 gallon post boil batch size
75% efficiency
90 minute boil
EST OG 1.053
EST IBU 34
MASH Temp 152F
10# Pilsner
10# Wheat
1# Honey Malt
1# Munich 10L
0.5# Acid Malt (added at mash out)
0.5# Rice Hulls
1.0 oz Hallertauer (3.8%AA) 60min
1.0 oz Magnum (15% AA) 60min
1.0 oz Hallertauer (3.8%AA) 30min
1.0 oz Hallertauer (3.8%AA) 10 min
1.0 oz Corriander seed (2min)
Zest of 6 oranges fresh (2 min)
Split batch on WLP001 and WLP400
Note: The acid malt was a fun last minute thought. Maybe to just give the beer a mild tartness with the sweet orange peel.... We'll see.
EDIT: I was asked to transform this to an extract version so here goes.
There is no way around it but the Munich and Honey Malt should be mashed. The acid malt could be added to the mash but it might be too much for such a small mash acidity wise. So I'd just use it as a steeping grain. You might also be able to steep the Munich and Honey Malt, but mashing it in 1.5 qts of water for 30mins would be best. I'd suggest 154F for the mash.
For 6 gal boil and a 5gal anticipated finish.
6lbs of Wheat DME
0.5# Munich
0.5# Honey Malt
0.25# Acid Malt
1.0 oz Hallertauer (3.8%AA) 60min
1.0 oz Magnum (15% AA) 60min
1.0 oz Hallertauer (3.8%AA) 30min
1.0 oz Hallertauer (3.8%AA) 10 min
1.0 oz Corriander seed (2min)
Zest of 6 oranges fresh (2 min)
I'd also suggest skipping the WLP001, its sort of lifeless for this style. Go with the WLP400 and you wont regret it.
Hmmmm, seems you could have made the African Amber instead of going through all the effort of making this one. I love you man, but if you don't make that beer this year, you and me are gonna have words, lol
bruguru wrote:
Hmmmm, seems you could have made the African Amber instead of going through all the effort of making this one. I love you man, but if you don't make that beer this year, you and me are gonna have words, lol
Its going in the queu!
I like the AA, but I NEEDED to get this orangey beer made. I am starting to sound a little sally with this fruity beer desire I think.
brewchez wrote:
I am starting to sound a little sally with this fruity beer desire I think.
Hey man, you gotta appease the ladies even if that includes yourself! Keep on keepin' on! Cheers!
Wade always has the profound words. :
1n1m3g wrote:
brewchez wrote:
I am starting to sound a little sally with this fruity beer desire I think.
Hey man, you gotta appease the ladies even if that includes yourself! Keep on keepin' on! Cheers!
Nice.
"EDIT: I was asked to transform this to an extract version so here goes"
Thank you man
Mike, what's the reasoning for the < 5% Munich? I see a lot of controversy over the use of a small amount of Munich in recipes, usually anything less than 15% of the total grist. Some people seem to think that it isn't noticeable in small percentages and you're better off just using regular 2 row. I haven't really experimented enough with varying amounts to draw my own conclusion; just wondering what your take is.
FirePitBrew wrote:
Mike, what's the reasoning for the < 5% Munich? I see a lot of controversy over the use of a small amount of Munich in recipes, usually anything less than 15% of the total grist. Some people seem to think that it isn't noticeable in small percentages and you're better off just using regular 2 row. I haven't really experimented enough with varying amounts to draw my own conclusion; just wondering what your take is.
I think people over think this stuff, and then try and come up with "rules" for everyone to follow. So that they themselves can seem all-knowing and masterful. (I don't think thats you, for the record) I see a lot of that stuff in different forums too.
I am fairly sensitive to the flavor of munich, so a half pound in a 5 gallons seemed to work for me. My point wasn't to build in some munich flavor, but to get one well rounded harmonized flavor profile from the entire grain bill. If I wanted it to have a distinct Munich taste, I'd add more.
I can't say what 15% of munich would have gotten me in this recipe vs. how I have it, because I just brewed it this way. I can say, I added a little munich because I was making a wheat based beer with 50/50 PILSNER and wheat. I was trying to brew this batch on the "cheap" and pilsner is what I had to use up. Otherwise, I would have shot for some domestic 2-row. Thinking the pilsner was a little weaker in flavor than I would have preferred, I added some munich to bring back some biscuit/grainy flavors that the pilsner didn't have.
When this beer is fresh it is pretty damn close to Harpoon UFO White, which was a surprise to be honest. I wasn't shooting for a dead knock off just an inspired brew to drink through the summer.
I have yet to meet to many brewers that actually come to these types of ingredient conclusions through careful trial and error with side by side evaluations. I'd love to brew another base wheat/pilsner brew +/- different amounts of munich to see if this holds water. But then I'd be wasting what precious brewing resources I have right now.
brewchez wrote:
I think people over think this stuff, and then try and come up with "rules" for everyone to follow. So that they themselves can seem all-knowing and masterful. (I don't think thats you, for the record) I see a lot of that stuff in different forums too....
....I have yet to meet to many brewers that actually come to these types of ingredient conclusions through careful trial and error with side by side evaluations. I'd love to brew another base wheat/pilsner brew +/- different amounts of munich to see if this holds water. But then I'd be wasting what precious brewing resources I have right now.
I agree and think the quoted text basically sums it up.
I have so many experiments that I'd like to conduct but not enough time. I keep on telling myself, "Someday..."
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